I don’t believe in believe. I generally don’t think that believing in things is smart. And I surely don’t define my religion by what my believes are.
But I do have to admit that there are situations where I reach a rational conclusion, while my body acts, and reacts in a totally different way. As if reacting to a different worldview. So, in a sense I have rationally accepted that what my subconscious believes is not always the truth. In a similar way in which you can see a picture and think it is a three dimensional image, only to discover that it was made of only two dimensions. There are thousand of visual illusions. Well I think that some of my believes are similar to visual illusions. Some are not. Even if you were to convince me rationally that jumping from from a great height will not harm me, my body would still oppose a serious resistance. This is what I refer to as believe. And this is what I refer to when I say: I believe in love.
I don’t believe in love because I think that it makes any sense rationally. I believe in love because I have observed my body over and over again, and the only way to explain the waxes and wanes of the pain when I am focused on a woman is by admitting that I believe in love.
What do I believe exactly? I believe that there is this connection, and it links two people, and it is symmetric. Symmetry plays a big role in my believe. I believe that you can feel it. You can lie about it, and you can even ignore it, if you are very busy, or very unclear about your inner world.
When I fall in love, it is not so much the love that I feel, but the excitment of the understanding that love is there. This is another way of saying that I act on love as a mean, not as an end. I don’t act directly on the world, but on my understanding of the world.
If I were to realise, suddenly, that no love is there, my pain disappears, as fast as when I was a kid the fear of a ghost would disappear as soon as in the ghost I would recognise the good old hanger, hanging in the penumbra. I was wrong, no reason to be afraid. And similarly, I was wrong, no reason to be excited. Or, I was wrong, no reason to suffer.
So, why do I suffer, when I suffer?
I don’t suffer when she does not love me. I don’t suffer when she is happily making love with another. No, I suffer when she loves me (or so I am illuded), and she does not tell me. I suffer when I am under the illusion1 that she secretly loves me, but she would not tell. In this sense all the resistance that a woman might have in telling me: “look I really don’t love you”, plays against me.
And there were time, long time ago, when I would corner a woman just to have her telling me the magic 4 words which would suddenly make me feel better. They would not understand it. Neither would I. I would just use it, like you use something that you know it works, although you don’t know why.
Then I stopped playing that game.. First of all a woman who is cornered is not always truthful. Woman just don’t have the same concept of Truth, we guys have. It’s not black and white for most of them. Is many shades of grey, if not even multicolored.
And secondly I would never end up with a girl. Yeah, I would not feel pain, but I was willing to feel pain, if in this way I could get the girl.
So the whole thing changed. I started to feel that love was something that could pass unrecognised, until a person would stay by herself long enough, enough to recognise it. Did you ever had a woman tell you: I could not feel the love for you, but then I left, and as I was alone on vacation all distractions left me, and you remained. Isn’t it wonderful when it happens? Love was there even before. Surely it wasn’t the period far away from me that increased our connection. It just went on the foreground when all the rest disappeared.
Also it could grow or fade. So I tried not to solve the equation soon, but let it unravel naturally. Withstanding the pain.
And is a strange situation. Think about it:
If she loves me, and she recognise it, I feel no pain.
If she does not love me, and she tells me, I feel no pain.
But the doubt kills me.
And of course this makes me a terrible gamer. Impatient. Too sensitive.
And the worse of all is when she tells me… and I don’t believe her. And this is how I see that I believe in love. It’s an observation. If I did not believe that love was symmetric I could rest on the realization that I love her, and she did not love me. Fair enough, right?
But it doesn’t work like this, you see. The more I am sure of my observation, the more I pretend to know her feeling better than herself. Either I am wrong, and I don’t love her. Or she is wrong, mistaken or lying. The idea that love might be not symmetric is not even considered. And the fact that I assume that love is symmetric is the clear sign of my unconscious belief.
But you see, often love, and attraction is symmetric. And often woman do lie about it. I remember how surpriesed I were the first time I did a particular social meditation. This meditation involves many people, it comprises various parts. In one you are supposed to go and dance erotically with other people. Boys or girls, your choise. Of course they might move away. You chose with whom you dance. You chose how dirty you dance with them. Will you dance cheek to cheek or grope them in the middle of the floor. I have seen it all, and done most. But the fact that is ritualised. That the social element is left out. That no bond is built that will survive the end of the meditation, makes everybody more free.
I remember the girls that I liked, the same one I was attracted to, come and look for me. It was an amazing sensation. Because no one would dance with everybody. The time was limited, and so you had to chose your partners. I had girls that I liked coming and dancing with me while I was already dancing with another girl. It was an awakening experience. Revitalizing, but it made me realise how much girls are contracted. How much they lie. How much they expect you to act. But most of all how much they pretend they are not interested when in truth they are very, very interested.
I remember speaking about all this with a friend of mine who have been doing the same meditation for a bit longer. He confirmed every bit of it. “Yes” he said, “you end up thinking: but then you really are assholes”. [pretending to be that uninterested]
And this just for attraction. Chemical attraction. And if this is how symmetric attraction often (but not always!) is, my subconscious is excused for assuming that love has to be symmetric, too. Don’t you think so?
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1) it is a belief too, but since I have already used the word believe speaking about the general issue of love, i.e. I believe in love (that is, I believe love exists), I don’t want to confuse you guys (and our only female reader, Tasha) in calling it a belief too. So we have two levels:
- I believe there is a love connection between me and x.
- I believe love exists.
Those are separate claims, although the first subsumes the second. And for the rest of the entry I shall try to use the word believe only for the second case, and ‘I am under the illusion’, or ‘I feel’ in the first case. Sorry for the complication but sometimes the world is complicated, and simplifying beyond its intrinsec complexity is not the right thing to do.
23 September, 2006 at 4:55 am
Hello Spider,
Want to come out and play? LOL
I don’t think I am easily confused. I know what love is and what love is not. i know that one can choose to love and can choose to not love, using love as an adjective, an action.
Choosing to act in loving ways. Chemical reaction can be stimulated, based upon how one perceives one to be. It does not have to be the truth, but a perception of it. And I doubt that I could possibly be the only female reader of this.
Illusion, sleight of hand, one minute you see it, one minute you do not, watch carefully, ta da, it is gone and the crowd goes ooooooh. But when it returns, the applause is grand.
So under an illusion…a connection ones sees here then its gone and if it reappears, how nice. But what is happening behind the scenes? A master of illusion usually has a trick up his sleeve, does he not? Some technical wizardry for accomplishing his “act”?
Did you know that well behaved women rarely make history?
I read that on a bumper sticker when I took my kiddos to a track meet. I thought how truthful, that was. Oh, if you look at the gray scale for a printer, black and white are listed.
So everything is a shade of gray, not even a man thinks in a totally black and white view point, it is all shades of gray.
Like your anonymous postings, nothing is black or white except the font and back ground of the visual site.
Happiness and attitude can be chosen ahead of time. One can cool oneself off on a hot, hot day by thinking of ice cubes and the artic winter frosting your breath. Or one can warm oneself on cold, chilly days by thinking of warming up by a bright, crackling fire. One can look at a down pour of rain and think how beautiful the day is. One can think it is just simply pretend or one can simply believe in the joy of it.
Same as love, pretending or believing, life still happens even if you look the other way. One has to believe in something or one is like a dragon fly with a busted wing that keeps turning somersaults in an attempt to fly but slowly dies.
25 September, 2006 at 4:17 pm
Hello Tasha,
thanks for your beautiful comment.
First it made me laugh, then it made me think. A nice combinaton.
As you suggested (but I had actually planned) I passed the week end out in a small community near here. It felt so good!
I like the idea of loving as an action. And I would not call such type of love an illusion. Love is such an overloaded word. It means so many different things. By splitting falling in love from love we tried to make a first distinction, but there are so many that needs to be made. And love as an action, respect to love as a state is another. Although of course they are not totally independent, and one often leads to the other. And when it doesn’t we often feel remorse!
I also agree that the word is not black and white. In fact I really bring forward the idea that you cannot truly analyse thing if you keep on projecting them on a one dimensional axis (1 number, level of grays). Still I stand that men are more tied by their words, than women. You can probably say that women live more in the here and now. Fair enough. I am not making a value judgement. Just an explicative description.
No, I ignored that well behaved women rarely make history. But that’s quite true about men also, right? The shoe that fits well gets forgotten. And how many soldiers of world war I can you remember by name. Who just did what where expected to do? But I knew another expression of the similar concept: happy people have no history.
I shall practice some of your love as an action; for purely egoistic reasons: to feel good about myself. You know I already do a similar practice, although that is more tied to spending love, more than to producing it.
Finally, to conclude this point by point answer, I don’t agree that one has to believe in something or else …
Depressed people believe negative things.
Happy chaps believe positive things.
And people who believe in nothing…
Maybe those are the ones who actually get to see reality.
But I am handwaving, for I haven’t had a direct experience of it
P.S. does the fact that you called me spider means that you have started facing your own 8 legged demon? Will you make a small video show of you playing with a spider in your hand? If you send it to me, I’ll put it up as an example of braveness.
10 October, 2006 at 4:00 pm
Hello,
I think I missed this response from all the extra postings that popped on and off here of late, which I guess was basically spam. So here goes. Your welcome and…
Wonderful that you had some fun. I have lived in enough cities and love being out in the country. Last night was a gorgeous Autumn night, warm and clear with the stars so shiny and the moon huge and glowing so brightly on the eastern horizon. It is good just to stop and breathe.
I think alot of people experience the illusion of love or it would last forever, would it not? It takes more effort to continue to love someone and act in loving ways than it does to let it flutter briefly and fade away.
Black, white, gray… many variations of thought. I dream in color and have lucidly dreamed since I was 14 and my visual thoughts and pictorials are never just black, white or gray, always multiple shades of colors and light and shadow. I have always thought in tracks. One track I may be thinking this. This track that. Just multiple tracks. I understand too much and am understood too little.
I understand that. People who do as expected are rarely in the fore front of anyone’s thoughts for deeds or misdeeds.
I don’t think I have ever spent love. It sounds like a very expensive thing to do. Would rather think of love that has no limits and multiplies and increases the more it is shared.
Happiness is a choice one can make ahead of time.
As for spiders…8 legged or any other variety…the fear humors me or why else have it?
17 October, 2006 at 7:53 pm
Hello Tessa,
it took me some time to come around and answer you on this.
I, in my experience, disagree that love is finite, and that it ends. Love, in my life never ended. And in a sense that was part of the problems with that. When I love a woman, when I deeply love her, and she loves me too, and we passionately make love… then a bond is created. Now, after more than a decade I still feel that I love some women I made love with. Not all, and not all the women I fell for. But very few of the women I passionately made love to are not in this list. And mostly that texture of the ones that ended was quite different. Less honest, less true.
I might know that I cannot be with them. I might even agree that it is the best for both of us. But not loving them? Naa, I still love them.
And I tell you more, not only do I love them, but I also think and believe that deep inside they still love me too. They might not express it. Oftent they are married, with kids. It takes a special kind of woman to be able to admit: “Yes, I loved you, and I still love you, and yet I still want to be with my husband because with you it didn’t work out, and it would never would have work out.”
It is easier to say, even to oneself: “I use to love him, and now I don’t anymore. Instead I love my husband”.
All those feelings and thoughts were clear in me from a long time, but lately they became even more explicit as part of a bigger picture as I have started reading about the orders of love.
You say that you think in multiple tracks, and that few people understand you. Yes, I think in multiple tracks too, and I believe most people do, although not everybody is aware of it. But I am curious: do you keep on reading and commenting this blog because you have the hope that I might understand you, or help you understand yourself?
19 October, 2006 at 3:11 am
You mention that you are curious. I took a moment of time to look up the word curiosity. This is what one dictionary defined curiosity as;
CURIOSITY
A noun
1 curio, curiosity, oddity, oddment, peculiarity, rarity
something unusual — perhaps worthy of collecting
Category Tree:
entity
╚object; physical object
╚curio, curiosity, oddity, oddment, peculiarity, rarity
╚collector’s item; showpiece; piece de resistance
╚collectible; collectable
╚bric-a-brac; knickknack; nicknack; knickknackery; whatnot
2 curiosity, wonder
a state in which you want to learn more about something
Category Tree:
state
╚cognitive state; state of mind
╚curiosity, wonder
╚curiousness; inquisitiveness
╚interest; involvement
╚desire to know; lust for learning; thirst for knowledge
What is it about my reading and commenting on this blog that has you curious? When did the curiosity exactly begin? Why do you seek the answer? How is either reply going to effect the dynamics of this blog or of you or I ?
Wherein the above definition best exemplifies your curious state?
Curiosity would be what originally caused me to read the blog. I had entered in a question into a search engine and one of the sites that came up was one of yours. Then I went back and read them all. I made a comment where I said that what I was reading was a not-nice word.
I always had this thirst for knowledge, exploring, expanding wisdom, enriching my soul, building my character, natural inclination to adventure and mishaps, middle name trouble, tommy girl always but basically lots and lots of curiosity.
I don’t think I have an intention to be understood. I think I decided that was a lost cause a long time ago and people basically understood whats in them to understand. As for understanding you, seems to me that the blog implies that you are in search of understanding yourself. But therein, as the reader, I can only understand as far as my paradigm and experiences in life, allows me to.
I think the heart has a limitless capacity to love. But being “in love” fades away, either to be replaced by a deeper, more abiding love or by nothing else. Illusion of “in love” versus a “great love”. As for old loves, fond rose colored visions of what was best as the wounds heal and the human condition of wanting to think good things of people irregardless of reality.
You mentioned I was the only female reader. How so?
When is that figured?
ttfn
Tessa
28 July, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Hola faretaste
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